Comments on: Understanding Cap And Trade Plans http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/ News and Views for Making and Saving Money in New Energy and Fuel Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:54:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-36734 Anonymous Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:31:50 +0000 http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/#comment-36734 The evidence is overwhelming that something needs to be done...o v e r w h e l m i n g The evidence is overwhelming that something needs to be done…o v e r w h e l m i n g

]]> By: Brian Westenhaus http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Brian Westenhaus Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:19:54 +0000 http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/#comment-33 M. is correct. And assumes that everyone is smart using perfect knowledge - which is simply not the case. The arbitrary constraint compels the not so smart to behave in an controlled system. It sucks, its stupid, and it offers the smart opportunities to benefit beyond just making responsible choices, speeding the change along. M. is correct. And assumes that everyone is smart using perfect knowledge – which is simply not the case. The arbitrary constraint compels the not so smart to behave in an controlled system. It sucks, its stupid, and it offers the smart opportunities to benefit beyond just making responsible choices, speeding the change along.

]]> By: M. Simon http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-32 M. Simon Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:42:37 +0000 http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2007/09/18/understanding-cap-and-trade-plans/#comment-32 We already have a cap and trade system in place. It is called supply and demand. Trade is capped by supply. Demand is capped by price. === You are assuming perfect knowledge. Suppose by quadrupling CO2 output for 5 years we can eliminate 90% of CO2 production for ever. Suppose cap and trade limits you to 1.5X and you get no effect below a 4X increase. All you are doing is adding an arbitrary constraint. Especially as looks increasingly likely climate scientists are cooking the books. I don't care if it is right, left, or Jesus promoting this stuff. 1. It is stupid 2. The evidence for doing anything is not so hot. We already have a cap and trade system in place.

It is called supply and demand.

Trade is capped by supply. Demand is capped by price.

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You are assuming perfect knowledge.

Suppose by quadrupling CO2 output for 5 years we can eliminate 90% of CO2 production for ever. Suppose cap and trade limits you to 1.5X and you get no effect below a 4X increase.

All you are doing is adding an arbitrary constraint. Especially as looks increasingly likely climate scientists are cooking the books.

I don’t care if it is right, left, or Jesus promoting this stuff.

1. It is stupid
2. The evidence for doing anything is not so hot.

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